There were two days in a row when I successfully put Dylan down for a nap the same time as Riley and then had two (TWO) lovely hours all to myself and at the time I thought AH HA, I have totally figured out this baby’s schedule and now everything is going to be so EASY! And then he was all, excuse me but I think I’d like to spend about a week sleeping in 10-minute intervals during the day, does that work for you? And I was all, well, shitballs.

He’s not entirely predictable about how he chooses to spend his daylight hours but oh my god he is such a good baby at night. He usually goes down around 8 PM in his crib, and JB wakes him up around 11 for a last feeding before putting him back to bed. His one night-time wakening happens anywhere between 3-5, and it is completely painless: he milkpigs 4 or 5 ounces, farts a few times (he is such a frat boy), then falls back asleep in his swing.

(And now that I’ve described this fantastic behavior I’ve probably doomed myself to an entirely new routine involving round-the-clock feedings and a sustained bout of screaming from 2 AM onward.)

It makes such a HUGE difference when babies start sleeping more. I don’t even think I was aware of how fractured I was feeling as a result of not getting enough sleep, I just powered entire cases of energy drinks at a time and tried to ignore the fact whenever I stopped moving for five seconds my eyes drooped shut and a line of slobber hung from my lower lip.

Oh, and the other big difference? Getting him out of our bedroom. I knew that would help and yet I resisted it, but now that he’s at least starting out the night in his crib and I’m not waking up over every snort and whuffle (and I’m not getting up to feed him at his first squeak), I think both of us are resting better.

In other news that has nothing to do with babies, sleeping or otherwise, JB has been wearing these beige camo-print cargo shorts paired with white socks and clunky Keen shoes, and it is SO DORKY LOOKING, in a very Pacific Northwest dorky kind of way. However, when I made fun of his ensemble, I couldn’t come up with an answer to his question of what the fucking hell he’s supposed to wear with shorts then, Mrs. Fashion Plate?

So what do you think? What should a guy wear with cargo shorts when it’s not quite warm enough to sport the open-toed Teva mandals?

Comments

81 Responses to “Sleeping, shoes”

  1. Eric's Mommy on May 1st, 2008 12:52 pm

    MANDALS!!!! HaHa

    I have no good suggestions, my husband wears shorts with shoes and socks. I have given up trying to give him any fashion tips.

  2. Cassandra on May 1st, 2008 12:52 pm

    If it’s not warm enough for sandals, I don’t think it’s warm enough for shorts… but he could at least buy thinner socks. Maybe those cut-off ones that wouldn’t show. That might dial down the dork.

  3. Keaton on May 1st, 2008 1:00 pm

    Below-ankle socks with low-ankle shoes. Those socks should preferably match the outfit in color scheme or be black, as white socks always look stupid when exposed. =P

  4. Christian ODell on May 1st, 2008 1:01 pm

    I’ve always favored my vintage pair of “Ducky” shoes. The kind identical to what Ducky wore in Sixteen Candles.

    However, that being said … my wife never wants to be seen in public with me when I wear them.

    Oh well.

  5. Christian ODell on May 1st, 2008 1:01 pm

    I’ve always favored my vintage pair of “Ducky” shoes. The kind identical to what Ducky wore in Pretty in Pink.

    However, that being said … my wife never wants to be seen in public with me when I wear them.

    Oh well.

  6. JudithNYC on May 1st, 2008 1:02 pm

    Wish I could help. My sons (34 yo) refuse to wear shorts because–get this–”shorts are for tourists”. Luckily, this is the only stupid thing I have heard from them in a long time.

    Well, I have watched many a tourist and shorty socks to make a difference.

  7. JudithNYC on May 1st, 2008 1:03 pm

    DO make a difference, not TO

  8. Christian ODell on May 1st, 2008 1:03 pm

    Srry originally wrote the wrong movie. As we all know any movie with Molly Ringwald in it is identical to every other one. Age catching up to me.

  9. Kate on May 1st, 2008 1:08 pm

    Birks & wool socks.

    ROFLMAO. Ok I can’t even TYPE that with a straight face.

  10. Nora on May 1st, 2008 1:11 pm

    Agree with previous commenter - just change the socks to the ones that come below the ankle and don’t show out of the top of the shoe. That will make all the difference.

  11. eileen on May 1st, 2008 1:16 pm

    yes, i vote for the no-show socks with a type of sporty shoe like merrells. and even though they’re “no-show”, there’ll still be a bit that’s visible–it is essential that these are not white. gray or black is acceptable.

    i just looked up what keen shoes actually are and they appear in the same family as merrells. and the guy on the website is wearing thick brown socks.

    it is imperative the socks aren’t white.

  12. skiplovey on May 1st, 2008 1:17 pm

    My man wears below the ankle socks and vans. He’s not crazy about wearing shorts (he thinks it’s unmanly but we live in Los Angeles so what can you do, it’s hot here) and he thinks athletic shoes look too athletic-y. So Vans it is.

  13. Tessie on May 1st, 2008 1:19 pm

    Is he an athletic shoe/sneakers/tennis shoes/whatever the kids are calling them these days kind of guy? Because that’s what I suggest. Ankle-length socks and athletic shoes.

    I know the whole slip-on thing is key to some guys though. In which case, I suggest (oh dear) Crocs or similar?

  14. Sarah on May 1st, 2008 1:20 pm

    Yes, I agree. If it’s not warm enough for sandals, it’s not warm enough for shorts. I tend to be the opposite and wear flip-flops w/ long pants in the interim.

    If he MUST wear shorts, then I think your options are low ankle socks (which my husband has pronounced G-A-Y and banned from the house, or boat shoes, Vans, chucks, or something that you can wear sockless.

  15. Coleen on May 1st, 2008 1:23 pm

    Whenever Gregg pulls that look, I feel like it only looks best either with a sort of darker (heather gray) ankle sock and hiking shoes, or in flip flops. He tries to get away with Tevas, but those honestly drive me insane.

  16. Amy on May 1st, 2008 1:27 pm

    I’m guessing different socks are the key. White athletic socks look dorky in every single situation.

  17. Traci on May 1st, 2008 1:27 pm

    Low-top black Converse with low-cut socks.

    Seriously.

  18. ikate on May 1st, 2008 1:28 pm

    I honestly think that if it’s not open-toed Teva weather, it’s not short weather. But you live in the outdoorsy Pacific Northwest so I think he could maybe get away with low-ankle hiking boots with low socks (not white).

  19. vague on May 1st, 2008 1:34 pm

    Well, people have a lot of opinions about shoes and socks here! I have to completely agree with Traci — low-top Chucks and low-cut, runner-style socks (which, I believe, only come in white, but I also think such a sock would look beyond silly in any other color).

    BTW, I have a firm stance against shorts on anyone older than 12, but I think I’m alone on that one. Anyway, a low-top Chuck goes with anything!

  20. vague on May 1st, 2008 1:35 pm

    (Plus, of course, only a sliver of the running-style sock is ever visible, and the white of it would go with the white-toed Chuck. So there you go!)

  21. Sara on May 1st, 2008 1:36 pm

    Pants.

    Or closed toed Keen mandals and no socks. I have been wearing just this, (Of course, in sandal version) for about 3 weeks now, because A) PNW winter be damned, I am done with you! and 2) No matter what socks I wear, they seem to restricting for my (not so) recent tootsie surgery. They keep me fairly warm and also provide a nice foot breeze. Also? Sandals without the prerequisite pedi. Score.

  22. Kristen on May 1st, 2008 1:51 pm

    I agree with Chucks and low cut/no socks. Although, from what we know about JB, he doesn’t seem like a Chucks kind of guy to me.

  23. Ashley on May 1st, 2008 1:51 pm

    JB should wear no socks.

    And I am going to go in a corner and cry a fucking river because after a year and a half I still have to get up 3-8 times a night….oh my god make it stop. You think maybe Dylan could share the sleeping through the night juice? Huh? That would be GREAT!

  24. Pickles & Dimes on May 1st, 2008 1:57 pm

    Sorry, if he wants to wear shorts, he’s got to man up and wear sandals - WITHOUT socks.

  25. M.A. on May 1st, 2008 2:08 pm

    I have long suffered over the issue of men’s footwear — particularly in the summer. I’m sorry, but the only Man who should wear sandals is Jesus, and I don’t mean that disparaging, I just… I just really… don’t… like…. sandals on guys. There. I said it. Men should wear Topsiders without socks, period, the end. Or tennies with socks. NOT, however, Topsiders with socks (a favorite of MY husband’s, espec. after golf, ohdearmy). I know I’m hopelessly outdated, and God knows (as does Jesus, clearly) that men should be able to enjoy the breezy wonderfulness that sandals offer, but… I just… I just don’t… I just… hate the look. There. I said it.

  26. Amy on May 1st, 2008 2:17 pm

    My husband is actually a pretty good dresser. He wears shorts with low-ish socks (sometimes white, sometimes gray) and Pumas all the time… I think it looks spiffy! It’s way too cold for mandals in Chicago right now, anyway.

  27. mandy on May 1st, 2008 2:17 pm

    I just think my husband is hot in cargo shorts with tennis shoes and (short) socks. He rocks anything he dons, not fair AT ALL. I am the one who really needs the fashion advice, so I can’t afford to offer much.

  28. sooboo on May 1st, 2008 2:20 pm

    I’d say cooler shoes, like converse or retro addidas. That would look less like he was going on a hike and more like he was chillaxing. Socks are okay, white only and low.

  29. Jennifer on May 1st, 2008 2:24 pm

    Sadly, my husband has gone out in public in khaki shorts, a white tee shirt, and black socks and tennis shoes. It is rare but disturbing none-the-less. Can’t seem to train him on the socks and shorts thing so I just let it be.

  30. Chris on May 1st, 2008 2:27 pm

    I would suggest Vans with low socks. Congratulations to you for getting the baby outta da bedroom. Big step, that one. You’re going to need to be well rested come Monday :-)

  31. Shannen on May 1st, 2008 2:31 pm

    My husband wears black hiking boots (ala 80’s anyone?!) with EVERYTHING, yup even with shorts :) Embarrassing yes but then I knew that when I married him!

  32. Joanne on May 1st, 2008 2:34 pm

    My sweet husband wears shorts with sneakers and low socks, but my vote would be to man up and wear the mandals.

    I feel you on the broken up sleep thing. I am a BFer and so can’t drink the power drinks, though I’d LOVE to, and I have been nearing crazy lately. I finally just gave up and started going to sleep at around 9:00 so if she sleeps til 3:00 I’ve gotten six hours, which seems like SO, so much now. I am a big Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child book person - I like to make sense of why what’s going on is going on.

  33. Laura on May 1st, 2008 2:39 pm

    Whaaaa??? No pictures to make fun of????? Give us a little inspiration!

  34. Missy on May 1st, 2008 2:40 pm

    I’m with all the people who have said — if it’s too cold for mandals, isn’t it too cold for shorts? I love a man in flipflops (as long as he’s a man with non-gnarly toes, of course).

  35. Sara on May 1st, 2008 2:42 pm

    I fiftieth the athletic shoes-with-short socks recommendations, with a few caveats: the shoes must not be white, the socks should be white unless he is wearing really dark shorts. Dark shorts require charcoal/grey socks; otherwise, go with white. Under no circumstances are white athletic shoes acceptable. Good luck!

  36. foodmomiac on May 1st, 2008 2:42 pm

    My metrosexual husband who is obsessed with fashion wears cool sneakers (Converse, Prada, etc.)with his cargo shorts if it’s too cold for sandals.

  37. Steph T on May 1st, 2008 2:52 pm

    I have to agree with the statement of “if it’s too cold for sandals, then it’s too cold for shorts.” But I think the Converse or Van type canvas shoe will work in a pinch. But who am I to talk…I’ve been living in my Crocs with the warmer temps.

  38. Jem on May 1st, 2008 3:25 pm

    Suffer with the sandals! We wear heels, don’t we? ;)

  39. telegirl on May 1st, 2008 3:27 pm

    My husband is addicted to flip flops, much to my dismay. It’s still a bit cold here so he has been wearing jeans and flip flops. I can’t. make. him. stop. I’d gladly allow him Keens & hot pink socks, if he’d just wear them.

  40. Gillian on May 1st, 2008 3:32 pm

    Skip the shorts.

  41. warcrygirl on May 1st, 2008 3:38 pm

    I’m not familiar with the Keen line so I googled it. Exactly which shoe is he wearing? The dorky slip ons? Because the athletic shoes look pretty cool to me.

    That makes me a dork, right?

  42. Andrea on May 1st, 2008 3:43 pm

    My geekier half wears hiking boots with his shorts until it’s sandal weather. But, he pulls his socks all the way up mid-calf, so he STILL looks dorky.

    He also wears socks with his Jesus sandals, making him look like a 60 year old German tourist from the knees down. It cracks me up.

  43. angela on May 1st, 2008 3:53 pm

    My go-to generic shoes for shorts are chucks or pf flyers.

    aside from that, he has a bunch of fancy italian sneakers which i’m not particularly fond of.

  44. Emily on May 1st, 2008 3:55 pm

    I’m with Keaton and whoever else. It’s unisexy: shorts, invisible socks, and running or low hiking shoes. A great combination of ready-for-anything and showing a little skin.

  45. Chris on May 1st, 2008 4:03 pm

    Definitely Sperry top-siders.

  46. Andrea on May 1st, 2008 4:13 pm

    How about a pair of running shoes (not the ten year old ratty ones…) with ankle socks? Honestly, any short/close toed shoe ensemble needs ankle socks; it will help the situation immensly. I also live in the Pacific Northwest and it is a rare man that can figure out how to wear all his REI gear in a “cool” way.

  47. AndreAnna on May 1st, 2008 4:15 pm

    My husband would wear short in the snow if he could, so when he has to wear shoes, he wears the low cut socks and sneakers, but the hiking looking kind, like Columbia. So that I guess he looks sporty or something. Like “yes, I know it’s March in NJ, but I think I’d like to go HIKING!”

  48. victoria on May 1st, 2008 4:29 pm

    Boat shoes/moccasins (Sperry Top Siders or their ilk) WITHOUT socks. Or running/tennis shoes WITH white running or tennis socks (that don’t come far out of the shoe). Or hiking boots with hiking socks (NOT pulled up halfway to the knee). A really well-worn, scuffed, heel-chewed-through (NOT shiny or new) pair of Cole Haan loafers WITHOUT socks. (But NOT Mephisto brand loafers under any circumstances.)

    Basically, there are two categories to choose from:

    (1) any very casual leather shoe that slips on (either completely lacks laces or has only crude laces that are meant to be tied once and left alone), worn without socks.

    (2) any functional sport/hiking shoe or boot (with laces obviously) worn with socks protruding only slightly.

    Why do I have such definite tastes? Because my totally hot, awesome, SEXY husband who has the body of a teenaged tennis star INSISTS on destroying his own sex appeal by wearing the gayest, dorkiest show & sock combos when he’s dressing “casually.” It’s birth control on his feet.

  49. victoria on May 1st, 2008 4:30 pm

    Sorry, I meant “shoe & sock combos,” not “show & sock combos.”

  50. Jennifer on May 1st, 2008 4:43 pm

    The Walrus is a big fan of flip flops year round but opts for running shoes with anklet socks or chucks with no socks if it’s raining. The Keens don’t look too bad, do they? As long as JB’s wearing them with minimal sockage and not black dress socks with sock garters I’d think they’d be fine!

    Anything but Jerusalem Cruisers!

  51. wn on May 1st, 2008 4:52 pm

    One word - Vans

  52. Anonymous on May 1st, 2008 5:23 pm

    I bet he stays a good sleeper. Riley was, mostly, right? You guys train them right.

    My boyfriend and brother both work in a warehouse in Texas (Remember when I dork-mailed you about how my brother runs the warehouse for Despair? My boyfriend screenprints their t-shirts now, too.) so both tennis shoes and shorts are pretty much a must, daily. I suggest a sporty, rather than fashion-y pair of tennis shoes, paired with below-the-ankle socks. Good luck.

  53. squandra on May 1st, 2008 5:24 pm

    That would be me. Also, oh yeah, Vans!

  54. anna on May 1st, 2008 5:29 pm

    NO show socks (cos even though they are dorky and jock-tennis-like no one can actually see them so its all good)and some street sneakers like Vans, Adidas dressy kinda sneakers, or something like that….

    Poor JB with his shoe/sock issues….

  55. Christine on May 1st, 2008 5:54 pm

    Low profile tennis shoes–Vans or Adidas are good.

  56. MLE on May 1st, 2008 5:59 pm

    My husband is of the opinion that if it can’t be done in Chuck Taylors, it isn’t worth doing, which is why he wore chucks with his kilt for the wedding. He wears Chucks with everything. So I’m going to vote low-top Chucks with low socks.

  57. Eleanor Q. on May 1st, 2008 6:07 pm

    Sneakers with no socks of course!

  58. biscuit on May 1st, 2008 6:35 pm

    My hubby wears North Face hiking sneakers with his cargo shorts. He looks so outdoorsy + hot. JB should hit up REI!

    Around the house I wear my Nick + Nora sock monkey slippers, they go with EVERYTHING in my humble opinion. JB should consider that one too because NOTHING is worse than socks with sandals especially socks with CROCS. *YAK*

  59. biscuit on May 1st, 2008 6:37 pm

    PS: I pissed my pants @ “Jerusalem Cruisers”!!!

  60. Naomi in Oz on May 1st, 2008 6:46 pm

    Well, my guy is a jeans and trainers guy all year round. He doesn’t own sandals, he does have thongs (flipflops) for the beach, but he still usually wears jeans. He does own a pair of shorts, but they are the short Aussie Rules Football shorts, and since he stopped playing footy, he only wears them swimming. This post came at the wrong time though, because we are leaving chilly australia (18C and raining atm) for hot and sweaty singapore (32C & 95% humidity) shortly - just for a holiday - and I nearly had the man convinced that he needs some long shorts and some mandals and then he read your post and now he won’t buy sandals or shorts. :-(

  61. ikate on May 1st, 2008 7:34 pm

    Of topic - Linda, aren’t you so happy there are people like PD commenters Jessica and Mel out there raising children?? Make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. :)

  62. CA on May 1st, 2008 8:06 pm

    short white athletic socks and non-white sneakers.

  63. Anonymous on May 1st, 2008 8:35 pm

    I agree with Cassandra, if it’s too cold to wear sandals, then it’s too cold to wear shorts, but because guys have these issues then I would suggest boat shoes.

  64. Karen on May 1st, 2008 8:54 pm

    OK, I have nothing to add to all the high-value fashion advice above….. YET, just remind yourself now and again…. that pic of the other day? where you guys are OUTSIDE and it’s not snowing or pissing? Rejoice. We are too. I’m just happy to see my husband’s pale white calves rather than ski pants!!!

    K

  65. angela on May 1st, 2008 10:04 pm

    Throw out the shorts! They are horrible and unflattering on EVERYONE. Everyone!! Loose yourselves from the shackling scourge of shorts!!!

  66. Wendy Murphy on May 2nd, 2008 6:06 am

    When you are done with the fashion nazis, please send them to my house. My dork, I mean lovng hubby, wears those shorts with two pair of knee high socks (wool over white sweatsocks) and white sneakers or his steel toed workboots.
    Then turn them on me, I’m sure I could use the help too!

  67. Christie on May 2nd, 2008 6:11 am

    Unfortunately I can give no good advice on this and here is why: When we first married my husband HATED sandals…of any kind! He had a pair of HORRIBLE boat shoes that he wore with white socks and it made me crazy. I finally talked him into a pair of sandals while living in Florida (he’s a Navy boy) but they were closed toe and closed heel (which to me is a shoe and not a sandal but thats a whole different arguement). I am a fan of the flip flop and I owne them in many beautiful colors and styles (none of which cost more than $15)all of which he disliked. One day out of the blue, my husband became Mr. Fashion and wanted a pair of flip flops. After a lot of looking around he finally found a pair and when the cashier gave me the total I about shit my pants…$58.56! For real, for a pair of f’in flip flops. We now reside in Northern Illinois about a mile from Lake Michigan and it is still not very spring like around here and my husband is already wearing his flops… every day! He wears them with jeans or shorts and in fact a few weeks ago it was snowing and he had them on…so my husband would suggest just sporting the sandals anyway rather it was warm enough or not.

  68. babs on May 2nd, 2008 6:48 am

    Blundstones dude. With cool hiking socks.

  69. Bethiclaus on May 2nd, 2008 7:06 am

    My policy is: Warm enough for shorts? Warm enough for sandals.

  70. JuJuBee on May 2nd, 2008 7:31 am

    Guys have the easiest clothing problems…if only that was all we had to worry about when getting dressed.

  71. Alley on May 2nd, 2008 8:09 am

    Socks should never, ever, ever be worn with sandals. That being said, my dorky husband wears sneakers year round. I can occasionally get him into sandals when it’s really hot, but otherwise, he’s in socks and Nikes alll the time. I’ve practically given up on trying to get him to dress better.

  72. T on May 2nd, 2008 8:37 am

    he needs to ditch the white socks. something more natural colored would be much less offensive.

  73. Kerri on May 2nd, 2008 9:30 am

    Docksiders or comfy loafers. No socks, unless he wants to come to NJ and be called a Benny.

  74. Kerri on May 2nd, 2008 9:51 am

    Or those Vans with no laces…

  75. Jenny on May 2nd, 2008 10:23 am

    Low-top Converse (Chuck Taylors) with no socks is really nice-looking. Take a look at jcrew.com’s men scenes for other ideas.

  76. Kelly on May 2nd, 2008 12:17 pm

    John Varvatos converse.

  77. Sunshyn on May 2nd, 2008 12:56 pm

    Sperry topsiders, no socks. Or construction boots and socks that come above. Doc Martens?

  78. Misguided mommy on May 2nd, 2008 10:14 pm

    leather flip flops silly

  79. Jean on May 3rd, 2008 6:24 pm

    I agree with whoever said if it’s not hot enough for flip flops, don’t wear shorts! There is no other solution.

  80. Suki on May 4th, 2008 11:50 am

    Converse low tops, NO socks.

  81. Lori O on May 5th, 2008 10:20 am

    If he can wear shorts, then he can wear sandals. Otherwise maybe running shoes with ankle socks…

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