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		<title>By: Marcie Johnston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcie Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.sundrymourning.com/2008/05/21/9-5-and-otherwise/comment-page-2/#comment-135168</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 21:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. Interesting comments from everyone.  I consider myself a full-time SAHM, even though I work 10 evenings a month at a hospital.  I like my job, am good at it, it pays decent, good benefits, etc. but if I didn&#039;t have to work, I wouldn&#039;t miss it.  In fact, I&#039;d be pleased as punch to not work outside the home at all.  Even though it&#039;s hard work being a mom, I wouldn&#039;t trade it.  I seriously am in awe of moms who work full time - I KNOW there&#039;s no way I could do it.  It&#039;s hard enough for me working 20 hours a week, but I need to do so for the benefits as hubby is self-employed.  

Right now we&#039;re in the process of building a house and my biggest fear is that it will end up costing so much more than we anticipate that I&#039;ll have to work more.  And the thought terrifies me.  I hate how working and being tired changes me as a mom and a wife and I hate having my energies demanded elsewhere, away from my family.  I realize I&#039;m probably a throwback to another century, but I&#039;m happy as a clam at home with my kids, cooking, baking, playing with them and being part of (almost) every minute of their lives.  My son goes to 1st grade next year and it tears my heart out to know that he&#039;ll be gone for 6+ hours a day.  I&#039;ll miss the little buggar.

I&#039;m doing what I&#039;ve always wanted to do - be a mom - and I love it. That being said, I realize that it&#039;s not for everyone.  If working outside the home makes you a better parent, than I applaud you for recognizing that.  No point in staying home and being miserable and resentful - not very effective for raising kids or a good example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. Interesting comments from everyone.  I consider myself a full-time SAHM, even though I work 10 evenings a month at a hospital.  I like my job, am good at it, it pays decent, good benefits, etc. but if I didn&#8217;t have to work, I wouldn&#8217;t miss it.  In fact, I&#8217;d be pleased as punch to not work outside the home at all.  Even though it&#8217;s hard work being a mom, I wouldn&#8217;t trade it.  I seriously am in awe of moms who work full time &#8211; I KNOW there&#8217;s no way I could do it.  It&#8217;s hard enough for me working 20 hours a week, but I need to do so for the benefits as hubby is self-employed.  </p>
<p>Right now we&#8217;re in the process of building a house and my biggest fear is that it will end up costing so much more than we anticipate that I&#8217;ll have to work more.  And the thought terrifies me.  I hate how working and being tired changes me as a mom and a wife and I hate having my energies demanded elsewhere, away from my family.  I realize I&#8217;m probably a throwback to another century, but I&#8217;m happy as a clam at home with my kids, cooking, baking, playing with them and being part of (almost) every minute of their lives.  My son goes to 1st grade next year and it tears my heart out to know that he&#8217;ll be gone for 6+ hours a day.  I&#8217;ll miss the little buggar.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m doing what I&#8217;ve always wanted to do &#8211; be a mom &#8211; and I love it. That being said, I realize that it&#8217;s not for everyone.  If working outside the home makes you a better parent, than I applaud you for recognizing that.  No point in staying home and being miserable and resentful &#8211; not very effective for raising kids or a good example.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.sundrymourning.com/2008/05/21/9-5-and-otherwise/comment-page-2/#comment-135155</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 20:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sundry, yes, absolutely. On all points...

Didn&#039;t realize you&#039;d commented back until now. So I just wanted to drop another line to say that all those things make working the best FOR ME. The fact that I like what I do, that it&#039;s rewarding (FOR ME), that it is healthy (FOR ME) to get out and do something like what I do for work. It was just easier to point to those surface factors in a comment, rather than trying to relay all those complex factors.

The jist is still the same. I feel very similar to what you describe: in a good place. The balance is TOUGH, but it is the best option for me, for us, right now.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sundry, yes, absolutely. On all points&#8230;</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t realize you&#8217;d commented back until now. So I just wanted to drop another line to say that all those things make working the best FOR ME. The fact that I like what I do, that it&#8217;s rewarding (FOR ME), that it is healthy (FOR ME) to get out and do something like what I do for work. It was just easier to point to those surface factors in a comment, rather than trying to relay all those complex factors.</p>
<p>The jist is still the same. I feel very similar to what you describe: in a good place. The balance is TOUGH, but it is the best option for me, for us, right now.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 04:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Someone else got laid off on Tuesday? Well, I did love my part-time job that paid enough for daycare for 2 kids and still let some for paying bills and extras. So, now I&#039;m faced with getting a full-time job and I just don&#039;t know how that&#039;s going to go. I&#039;m just hoping that I get another job soon at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Someone else got laid off on Tuesday? Well, I did love my part-time job that paid enough for daycare for 2 kids and still let some for paying bills and extras. So, now I&#8217;m faced with getting a full-time job and I just don&#8217;t know how that&#8217;s going to go. I&#8217;m just hoping that I get another job soon at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 00:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had a shit ton of mediocre jobs in my short ass life. I&#039;m 24, and I may have has 24 jobs. But I&#039;ve been at my current job now for a full year, which is pretty good for me. And I fucking love it. I still have to deal with asshole corporate accountants, I still have to deal with unrealistic demands on my performance, and I still have to deal with the same day to day grind of doing the same thing over and over again.

BUT, I get to use chainsaws, sledgehammers, power tools of massive destruction, and generally kick and pound the shit out of things that need to be demolished, while still exercising my abilities as a tradesman. The people I work with are fun and easygoing, like in your place of work. And genreally, just everything about the job is cool, except the schoolboy shorts in my uniform.

The point is that I love going to work every day, and I still have to deal with things on a regular basis that piss me off and are uncool. Maybe one day in fuckin shangrila I&#039;ll find a job that doesn&#039;t suck in any way, but normally you don&#039;t get paid for those, you shell out your own money to do those, and they don&#039;t call them jobs, they call them hobbies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had a shit ton of mediocre jobs in my short ass life. I&#8217;m 24, and I may have has 24 jobs. But I&#8217;ve been at my current job now for a full year, which is pretty good for me. And I fucking love it. I still have to deal with asshole corporate accountants, I still have to deal with unrealistic demands on my performance, and I still have to deal with the same day to day grind of doing the same thing over and over again.</p>
<p>BUT, I get to use chainsaws, sledgehammers, power tools of massive destruction, and generally kick and pound the shit out of things that need to be demolished, while still exercising my abilities as a tradesman. The people I work with are fun and easygoing, like in your place of work. And genreally, just everything about the job is cool, except the schoolboy shorts in my uniform.</p>
<p>The point is that I love going to work every day, and I still have to deal with things on a regular basis that piss me off and are uncool. Maybe one day in fuckin shangrila I&#8217;ll find a job that doesn&#8217;t suck in any way, but normally you don&#8217;t get paid for those, you shell out your own money to do those, and they don&#8217;t call them jobs, they call them hobbies.</p>
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		<title>By: amy (southkona)</title>
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		<dc:creator>amy (southkona)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 23:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will also say the hard part of how we did it is that my husband had to devote long hours and lots of energy to his new business while we were in the most physically demanding stage of parenthood. I was on my own with my kids a lot (still am, really, although it&#039;s a lot easier as they get older,) and I often feel that our marriage has been very neglected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will also say the hard part of how we did it is that my husband had to devote long hours and lots of energy to his new business while we were in the most physically demanding stage of parenthood. I was on my own with my kids a lot (still am, really, although it&#8217;s a lot easier as they get older,) and I often feel that our marriage has been very neglected.</p>
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		<title>By: amy (southkona)</title>
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		<dc:creator>amy (southkona)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 23:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before kids I was a public school teacher. I had a couple of rough years teaching 7th/8th grade, but by the time my daughter came I had settled into a WONDERFUL job at a great school teaching gifted pullout in the mornings and kindergarten in the afternoons. Love, love, loved it- I would have done it without pay :)
If we had stayed there I would have seriously considered staying on half time; just doing the gifted pullout in the mornings. My daughter was born at the end of March, though, so my maternity leave lasted until summer break, and then it ended up that we moved out of state for my husband&#039;s job.
I did in home daycare for awhile, taking care of two babies as well as my daughter, which worked well for bringing in a little income while being with her, but I didn&#039;t like being confined to the house and my husband had a hard time with other people coming to the house early in the morning and just as he was getting home from work.

 I also was pregnant with my second then (they are only 16 months apart), so I took a couple of months off until the baby was born, then watched one toddler (a playmate for my oldest) just a couple of days a week. At around the same time my husband started his own business, with the goal of us eventually being able to do well on just his income.

When my second was a year old, I went back to work 30 hrs a week teaching special needs preschool. My workplace had a program for &quot;typical kids&quot; too, so I was able to bring them to work with me, know their environment and teachers well, and see them at lunch or breaks. Once care for my two was taken out, I basically made enough to pay our mortgage. But I soon found out I was pregnant with my third, so when she was born in April I quit and have been home ever since.

Now the business is doing well, we have five children and we made some major lifestyle changes, moving to rural Hawaii, buying a mac nut farm,  and deciding to homeschool, so I don&#039;t see myself returning to a traditional workplace for many years, if ever. 

However, as my littlest gets out of the toddler stage (she&#039;s 22 months) I do see me doing income producing activities with my kids, whether additional farming, homeschooling other kids, or who knows what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before kids I was a public school teacher. I had a couple of rough years teaching 7th/8th grade, but by the time my daughter came I had settled into a WONDERFUL job at a great school teaching gifted pullout in the mornings and kindergarten in the afternoons. Love, love, loved it- I would have done it without pay :)<br />
If we had stayed there I would have seriously considered staying on half time; just doing the gifted pullout in the mornings. My daughter was born at the end of March, though, so my maternity leave lasted until summer break, and then it ended up that we moved out of state for my husband&#8217;s job.<br />
I did in home daycare for awhile, taking care of two babies as well as my daughter, which worked well for bringing in a little income while being with her, but I didn&#8217;t like being confined to the house and my husband had a hard time with other people coming to the house early in the morning and just as he was getting home from work.</p>
<p> I also was pregnant with my second then (they are only 16 months apart), so I took a couple of months off until the baby was born, then watched one toddler (a playmate for my oldest) just a couple of days a week. At around the same time my husband started his own business, with the goal of us eventually being able to do well on just his income.</p>
<p>When my second was a year old, I went back to work 30 hrs a week teaching special needs preschool. My workplace had a program for &#8220;typical kids&#8221; too, so I was able to bring them to work with me, know their environment and teachers well, and see them at lunch or breaks. Once care for my two was taken out, I basically made enough to pay our mortgage. But I soon found out I was pregnant with my third, so when she was born in April I quit and have been home ever since.</p>
<p>Now the business is doing well, we have five children and we made some major lifestyle changes, moving to rural Hawaii, buying a mac nut farm,  and deciding to homeschool, so I don&#8217;t see myself returning to a traditional workplace for many years, if ever. </p>
<p>However, as my littlest gets out of the toddler stage (she&#8217;s 22 months) I do see me doing income producing activities with my kids, whether additional farming, homeschooling other kids, or who knows what?</p>
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		<title>By: sooboo</title>
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		<dc:creator>sooboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 20:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked in offices for a long, long time, mostly as an assistant. Even when I had good bosses, I didn&#039;t like it. Eventually, I went back to school, got my MFA, and started seriously showing my art. Four years later, I am off the job and I just make my work full time. And I mean full freakin&#039; time. I just got done with a large project I have been working on since July. I worked six days a week, an average of twelve hour days. It&#039;s crazy, but I love it. The money is barely okay and my next project is to take steps to change that. Also, I don&#039;t have kids and I probably won&#039;t. I don&#039;t think I could be doing this if I did. So there have been sacrifices, but to me it&#039;s worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked in offices for a long, long time, mostly as an assistant. Even when I had good bosses, I didn&#8217;t like it. Eventually, I went back to school, got my MFA, and started seriously showing my art. Four years later, I am off the job and I just make my work full time. And I mean full freakin&#8217; time. I just got done with a large project I have been working on since July. I worked six days a week, an average of twelve hour days. It&#8217;s crazy, but I love it. The money is barely okay and my next project is to take steps to change that. Also, I don&#8217;t have kids and I probably won&#8217;t. I don&#8217;t think I could be doing this if I did. So there have been sacrifices, but to me it&#8217;s worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: sweetcheese</title>
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		<dc:creator>sweetcheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 08:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a soul-crushing, office job that pays the bills.  So, not a good place job-wise.  But I have changed my mind about work as I have aged in the sense that I have pinpointed the sort of job I should not be doing.  And certainly not be doing it 3 years AFTER the burnout set in.  
I look forward to being a stay at home (and hopefully work at home) mom, but who knows.  I am firmly of the belief that every family has its own best way of living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a soul-crushing, office job that pays the bills.  So, not a good place job-wise.  But I have changed my mind about work as I have aged in the sense that I have pinpointed the sort of job I should not be doing.  And certainly not be doing it 3 years AFTER the burnout set in.<br />
I look forward to being a stay at home (and hopefully work at home) mom, but who knows.  I am firmly of the belief that every family has its own best way of living.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunshyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunshyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 21:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I go to work to get some rest.  Seriously.  So when work gets hectic, I get a little bit pissed off.  How dare they dump all their poor planning crises on me at the same time?  Ha.  Boss has been in DC all week, and I&#039;m really grateful for that.  Now is the time to get caught up.  So what am I doing?  Commenting on blogs I read, of course.  I will get caught up after the NEXT one, I promise.  I agree, it is much easier to work when you are raising a kid.  I wish I&#039;d known that before, when I was raising my kids, instead of my grandkid.  Maybe I&#039;d have gotten some rest then, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I go to work to get some rest.  Seriously.  So when work gets hectic, I get a little bit pissed off.  How dare they dump all their poor planning crises on me at the same time?  Ha.  Boss has been in DC all week, and I&#8217;m really grateful for that.  Now is the time to get caught up.  So what am I doing?  Commenting on blogs I read, of course.  I will get caught up after the NEXT one, I promise.  I agree, it is much easier to work when you are raising a kid.  I wish I&#8217;d known that before, when I was raising my kids, instead of my grandkid.  Maybe I&#8217;d have gotten some rest then, too!</p>
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