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		<title>By: zeghsy</title>
		<link>http://www.sundrymourning.com/2008/05/23/three-unrelated/comment-page-2/#comment-136083</link>
		<dc:creator>zeghsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poltergeist = ALL CLOSET DOORS MUST REMAIN CLOSED DURING SLEEPING HOURS.

um, no matter where you work, if you&#039;re a mother, you&#039;re a working mother. in the home, out of the home, WHATEVER. i&#039;m a single, OUT of the home, working mother. soothwm? does that even make sense? who cares. my kid loves me because she knows i&#039;m doing the best i can for her with what i have now. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poltergeist = ALL CLOSET DOORS MUST REMAIN CLOSED DURING SLEEPING HOURS.</p>
<p>um, no matter where you work, if you&#8217;re a mother, you&#8217;re a working mother. in the home, out of the home, WHATEVER. i&#8217;m a single, OUT of the home, working mother. soothwm? does that even make sense? who cares. my kid loves me because she knows i&#8217;m doing the best i can for her with what i have now. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 17:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t like the new Indy  movie, except for the Harrison Ford part. My 8 YO girl loved it. Go figure. I thought the aliens and wedding were lame. I&#039;m a fan of weddings, but not for Indy. It seemed like there was more to the story that got left on the cutting-room floor. Oh, well.

Don&#039;t get me started on NMAIPs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t like the new Indy  movie, except for the Harrison Ford part. My 8 YO girl loved it. Go figure. I thought the aliens and wedding were lame. I&#8217;m a fan of weddings, but not for Indy. It seemed like there was more to the story that got left on the cutting-room floor. Oh, well.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me started on NMAIPs.</p>
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		<title>By: Claudia</title>
		<link>http://www.sundrymourning.com/2008/05/23/three-unrelated/comment-page-2/#comment-135999</link>
		<dc:creator>Claudia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I agree with Andrea about daycare. &quot;Other people&quot; help me raise my children but I am the mother. My kids know that. People who say, &quot;I don&#039;t want other people to raise my children&quot; forget that kids are human beings with intelligence and aren&#039;t for one moment confused about who their parents are. Childcare (good childcare) provides a safe, structured place for my daughter while I work and it offers things I can&#039;t - friends, working together and learning to get along with peers, trusting other adults, connecting in positive ways with the people in the wider world. They are nourished both in body and mind while I&#039;m not there. My kids have learned that they are just fine away from me. While I have no issues with attachment parenting (esp for infants), I do think a too-strong attachment only to one&#039;s mother is, well, maybe not 100% healthy. As kids grow, the world opens up to their consciousness and we, the parents, have to make it available to them. A good childcare center/preschool is one way to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I agree with Andrea about daycare. &#8220;Other people&#8221; help me raise my children but I am the mother. My kids know that. People who say, &#8220;I don&#8217;t want other people to raise my children&#8221; forget that kids are human beings with intelligence and aren&#8217;t for one moment confused about who their parents are. Childcare (good childcare) provides a safe, structured place for my daughter while I work and it offers things I can&#8217;t &#8211; friends, working together and learning to get along with peers, trusting other adults, connecting in positive ways with the people in the wider world. They are nourished both in body and mind while I&#8217;m not there. My kids have learned that they are just fine away from me. While I have no issues with attachment parenting (esp for infants), I do think a too-strong attachment only to one&#8217;s mother is, well, maybe not 100% healthy. As kids grow, the world opens up to their consciousness and we, the parents, have to make it available to them. A good childcare center/preschool is one way to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.sundrymourning.com/2008/05/23/three-unrelated/comment-page-2/#comment-135636</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 18:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First...Josh, you rock! Second, haven&#039;t seen the new Indy yet, but did watch the old ones with my two young sons over the weekend.  They love it. Sometimes too much in a theatre setting, but it&#039;s good for them to get the shit scared out of them once in awhile....get that imagination flowing!

Thirdly.........NMAIP can kiss my full-time working ass! It&#039;s great to be all holier than thou from atop her ivory tower, but come on down to the real world where some of us working moms are the bread winners in the family.  My mom stayed at home for awhile and then went back to work.  I saw a wonderful marriage where my dad would do the grocery shopping and cook some of the meals.  As we kids got old enough, we each had to cook dinner one night, we had to help clean the house. God forbid....a child that had to help around the house and do homework. And yet, I&#039;ve made it to 40! My boys are 6 &amp; 3.5 and they already help around the house. Cheers to those who can stay home, but don&#039;t be a hater for those of us that can&#039;t!!!!  (&#039;k...I&#039;m done)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First&#8230;Josh, you rock! Second, haven&#8217;t seen the new Indy yet, but did watch the old ones with my two young sons over the weekend.  They love it. Sometimes too much in a theatre setting, but it&#8217;s good for them to get the shit scared out of them once in awhile&#8230;.get that imagination flowing!</p>
<p>Thirdly&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;NMAIP can kiss my full-time working ass! It&#8217;s great to be all holier than thou from atop her ivory tower, but come on down to the real world where some of us working moms are the bread winners in the family.  My mom stayed at home for awhile and then went back to work.  I saw a wonderful marriage where my dad would do the grocery shopping and cook some of the meals.  As we kids got old enough, we each had to cook dinner one night, we had to help clean the house. God forbid&#8230;.a child that had to help around the house and do homework. And yet, I&#8217;ve made it to 40! My boys are 6 &amp; 3.5 and they already help around the house. Cheers to those who can stay home, but don&#8217;t be a hater for those of us that can&#8217;t!!!!  (&#8217;k&#8230;I&#8217;m done)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 15:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and Poltergeist is probably one of my favorite, scare-the-shit-out-of-me movies of all time.  And get this, I&#039;ve been poking around about that movie The Strangers with Liv Tyler and Ben Whatsisname that comes out at the end of this week, and I&#039;ve run across several critiques that have said this movie is up there in scary classic nature as Jaws and The Shining and Poltergeist.  I want to see this movie so bad that I am considering leaving the husband home with the kids to go to it by myfuckingself.  Last time I did that, I couldn&#039;t sleep for a week (The Ring) without a light on.  And I&#039;ve been looking around to see if I can find the events that inspired the storyline and it&#039;s so mysterious and secretive that I can&#039;t find it despite mind numbing hours looking (and yes, I have very little to do).  I realize that inspired by is different than based on, but seriously, I am more intrigued now than ever.  

We went camping over our long holiday weekend and there were thunderstorms where we were.  My husband started counting &quot;one one thousand, two one thousand,&quot; after lightning flashes and I about pissed my pants and hissed at him to quit it rightfuckingnow, especially because there was a knobby gnarly tree next to our campsite and our camper is one of those pop-up ones with canvas that a tree could totally rip through and steal one of the kids.  No thank you with the counting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Poltergeist is probably one of my favorite, scare-the-shit-out-of-me movies of all time.  And get this, I&#8217;ve been poking around about that movie The Strangers with Liv Tyler and Ben Whatsisname that comes out at the end of this week, and I&#8217;ve run across several critiques that have said this movie is up there in scary classic nature as Jaws and The Shining and Poltergeist.  I want to see this movie so bad that I am considering leaving the husband home with the kids to go to it by myfuckingself.  Last time I did that, I couldn&#8217;t sleep for a week (The Ring) without a light on.  And I&#8217;ve been looking around to see if I can find the events that inspired the storyline and it&#8217;s so mysterious and secretive that I can&#8217;t find it despite mind numbing hours looking (and yes, I have very little to do).  I realize that inspired by is different than based on, but seriously, I am more intrigued now than ever.  </p>
<p>We went camping over our long holiday weekend and there were thunderstorms where we were.  My husband started counting &#8220;one one thousand, two one thousand,&#8221; after lightning flashes and I about pissed my pants and hissed at him to quit it rightfuckingnow, especially because there was a knobby gnarly tree next to our campsite and our camper is one of those pop-up ones with canvas that a tree could totally rip through and steal one of the kids.  No thank you with the counting.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 14:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My biggest contention with the &quot;someone else raising your kids&quot; comment is that it&#039;s just not true.  I think daycare provides social structure for kids and when our kids are with us (parents) we are fully hands on with all situations on how we want to teach them to behave and interact with the world around them.  Just because my kids are at a daycare 8 hours a day doesn&#039;t mean that I teach them NOTHING at night and on weekends.  My four year old uses utensils to eat, has manners, says please and thank you, washes his hands after using the bathroom...  If I were letting someone else raise them, wouldn&#039;t that mean that I&#039;m basically doing NOTHING to show them how to behave properly?

And also, my son has gone to the same in-home daycare for nearly four years and my daughter has been there since she was six weeks old (is now just shy of five months) and will go there until she starts school.  Our entire family loves the daycare providers.  My son adores them, calls one of them Grandma and the other Aunt Tammy.  I don&#039;t see how it&#039;s so bad that they go to what is a state licensed daycare when the daycare providers treat them as if they are their own grandchildren/niece or nephew.  The kids learn from the daycare, and they have fun and love their &quot;teachers&quot; so I don&#039;t see how a stable daycare is so very wrong.  They&#039;re getting as much nurturing as if it were me or their father staying all day with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My biggest contention with the &#8220;someone else raising your kids&#8221; comment is that it&#8217;s just not true.  I think daycare provides social structure for kids and when our kids are with us (parents) we are fully hands on with all situations on how we want to teach them to behave and interact with the world around them.  Just because my kids are at a daycare 8 hours a day doesn&#8217;t mean that I teach them NOTHING at night and on weekends.  My four year old uses utensils to eat, has manners, says please and thank you, washes his hands after using the bathroom&#8230;  If I were letting someone else raise them, wouldn&#8217;t that mean that I&#8217;m basically doing NOTHING to show them how to behave properly?</p>
<p>And also, my son has gone to the same in-home daycare for nearly four years and my daughter has been there since she was six weeks old (is now just shy of five months) and will go there until she starts school.  Our entire family loves the daycare providers.  My son adores them, calls one of them Grandma and the other Aunt Tammy.  I don&#8217;t see how it&#8217;s so bad that they go to what is a state licensed daycare when the daycare providers treat them as if they are their own grandchildren/niece or nephew.  The kids learn from the daycare, and they have fun and love their &#8220;teachers&#8221; so I don&#8217;t see how a stable daycare is so very wrong.  They&#8217;re getting as much nurturing as if it were me or their father staying all day with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Claudia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claudia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 13:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant to comment on that other post but, well, when confronted by the fact that 1,576 people have already had their say, well, I can feel socially inept and beside the point online as well as in reality. Crazy.

I mainly avoid having the Working Mom vs SAHM conversations because it&#039;s tedious and you get nowhere. What I&#039;ve observed, though, in the seven years I&#039;ve been a parent is that we all need to give each other a break. I think we work often because we have to - financially and psychologically. I would not do well at home all day long with chattering children (as much as I love and adore them). 

Part of this is my introversion. I am completely wiped out by the end of the day if I can&#039;t retreat and reenergize and kids do not give a rat&#039;s ass about introvert/extrovert crap. They want to talk, they want another damn bowl of grapes in the purple bowl and not the slightly squished ones only the 100% perfect ones and why did you fold the napkin like that when it was made perfectly clear that they will only accept a napkin folded like this. Exhausting.

I like what I do, I like to have a space all to myself (more or less). I like to get up and go to the bathroom without being followed, without small sticky paws rattling the doorknob, without an eye peering through the keyhole saying, &quot;I see you, Mommy!&quot;

We always think the grass is greener and it&#039;s not necessarily. I think working moms may be jealous of sahs when they hate their job and carry other resentments or feelings of guilt that they are doing the &quot;wrong thing.&quot; I think SAHs are jealous of working moms when they feel the same way, that they&#039;re missing out on something or feel they&#039;re doing what their supposed to but are still unhappy in an unknown way (perhaps they need to read The Feminine Mystique).

There&#039;s no right and wrong and I think our generation is right smack in the middle of an attitude and cultural change. We&#039;re experiencing the growing pains. Our daughters and sons won&#039;t have this kind of angst, I hope. As for the woman mentioned above, who knows? Perhaps her daughter will chafe under such restrictions and become the first female president? (Though, why anyone would want that job I don&#039;t know.)

We need to give each other a break and try not to let the haters get us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to comment on that other post but, well, when confronted by the fact that 1,576 people have already had their say, well, I can feel socially inept and beside the point online as well as in reality. Crazy.</p>
<p>I mainly avoid having the Working Mom vs SAHM conversations because it&#8217;s tedious and you get nowhere. What I&#8217;ve observed, though, in the seven years I&#8217;ve been a parent is that we all need to give each other a break. I think we work often because we have to &#8211; financially and psychologically. I would not do well at home all day long with chattering children (as much as I love and adore them). </p>
<p>Part of this is my introversion. I am completely wiped out by the end of the day if I can&#8217;t retreat and reenergize and kids do not give a rat&#8217;s ass about introvert/extrovert crap. They want to talk, they want another damn bowl of grapes in the purple bowl and not the slightly squished ones only the 100% perfect ones and why did you fold the napkin like that when it was made perfectly clear that they will only accept a napkin folded like this. Exhausting.</p>
<p>I like what I do, I like to have a space all to myself (more or less). I like to get up and go to the bathroom without being followed, without small sticky paws rattling the doorknob, without an eye peering through the keyhole saying, &#8220;I see you, Mommy!&#8221;</p>
<p>We always think the grass is greener and it&#8217;s not necessarily. I think working moms may be jealous of sahs when they hate their job and carry other resentments or feelings of guilt that they are doing the &#8220;wrong thing.&#8221; I think SAHs are jealous of working moms when they feel the same way, that they&#8217;re missing out on something or feel they&#8217;re doing what their supposed to but are still unhappy in an unknown way (perhaps they need to read The Feminine Mystique).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no right and wrong and I think our generation is right smack in the middle of an attitude and cultural change. We&#8217;re experiencing the growing pains. Our daughters and sons won&#8217;t have this kind of angst, I hope. As for the woman mentioned above, who knows? Perhaps her daughter will chafe under such restrictions and become the first female president? (Though, why anyone would want that job I don&#8217;t know.)</p>
<p>We need to give each other a break and try not to let the haters get us.</p>
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		<title>By: GoingLoopy</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoingLoopy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 05:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fucking Poltergeist.  Jesus.  That scared the everfucking crap out of me at 7.  I always thought the shit in my closet was coming out at night anyway....

Also, the movie that scared me A LOT as a small child?  Sleeping Fucking Beauty with that monster at the end.  The big black dragon thing.  AAAAAAAH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fucking Poltergeist.  Jesus.  That scared the everfucking crap out of me at 7.  I always thought the shit in my closet was coming out at night anyway&#8230;.</p>
<p>Also, the movie that scared me A LOT as a small child?  Sleeping Fucking Beauty with that monster at the end.  The big black dragon thing.  AAAAAAAH.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 00:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, we saw Indy this weekend too. I LOVED IT. My husband, not as much, but he&#039;s wrong. Obv.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, we saw Indy this weekend too. I LOVED IT. My husband, not as much, but he&#8217;s wrong. Obv.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s this Mel you speak of?</description>
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