I’ve learned there are maybe two or three hard-core ParentDish commenters who spend what must be hours each week leaving pissy, sanctimonious, often extremely long-winded comments on just about every article that shows up. It’s the damnedest thing, I can’t figure out for the life of me why that sort of activity would be an enjoyable way to pass the time. Unless maybe you have an enormous pinecone rammed up your ass and endlessly griping about blog posts helps ease the pain?

My job there will be changing slightly over the next few weeks and will be focused more on happy funny posts, so hopefully I will manage to avoid getting so many people honked off. Although I’m not really sure if that’s possible, as the angriest reactions thus far have been with regards to 1) paying less attention to my dog, and 2) choosing not to spank my kid. Maybe if I post about how I spank my dog, everyone will be happy? (”She’s getting the attention AND the discipline she needs!”)

I’m also starting up another writing gig focused mainly on health/weight loss/exercise and I’ll be excited to link that when it’s ready because I am kind of obsessed with that topic lately. In fact, I joined a gym near my house this week and after going to one whole class I feel like a SUPERHERO. Well, a superhero who still can’t fit into her Joe’s Jeans and needs a bra made out of freaking titanium to hoist her southward-bound post-baby hooters into place but STILL.

Comments

95 Responses to “Is “commenter” a word? TextEdit thinks No.”

  1. Sleepynita on April 23rd, 2008 3:07 pm

    I am so with you on the couple ParentDish commenters. What a drag, for you to put up with and for us to read ;)

    good luck on the changes and the new venture!

  2. Swistle on April 23rd, 2008 3:09 pm

    YES! I say “commenter” is a word. “Commentator” is what my spell-check wants me to use, but that’s not what someone who leaves a comment is. Commentor isn’t right, either. Oh, in fact my Firefox spell-check is now approving “commenter,” I see. APPROVAL FROM ABOVE.

    I think the same sort of commenters (hm, Firefox spell-check is not authorizing the plural) plaque Baby Center. I finally gave up on the message boards there a few years ago, when I could stand the crap that people were enjoying spreading all over the place.

  3. Michelle on April 23rd, 2008 3:10 pm

    Yeah, I thought about commenting on the “do you spank” post (answer: NO!) but I was scared away by the judge-a-thon that ensued.

    Can’t wait to read the health/weight loss/exercise stuff. I could use some motivation.

  4. Swistle on April 23rd, 2008 3:10 pm

    Or perhaps I mean “COULDN’T stand the crap.” Yes.

  5. Janet on April 23rd, 2008 3:12 pm

    This is the only blog I read. Am I spoiled?

    ~Janet

  6. ML on April 23rd, 2008 3:22 pm

    I was so, so afraid over there.

    You are a brave, brave woman.

    And ditto the can’t wait about the weight loss writing…

  7. Rakel on April 23rd, 2008 3:23 pm

    can’t wait for the new gig, have started contemplating that titanium bra for some butt support!

  8. Lauren on April 23rd, 2008 3:37 pm

    I love your blog and I can’t believe it took me this long to find you! You are such a great writer and sooo much fun to read.

    As for the ol’ ParentDish, I second you on the enormous amount of crazy that site drags up. I would give just about anything to get a minute alone with “SKL” and kick the shit out of her. God, I should not be getting so fired up over another person commenting on a blog but seriously… that woman is one heinous bitch.

    I too second the weight loss gig - can’t wait to see your humor through it all!

  9. Felicia on April 23rd, 2008 3:41 pm

    Dude, I’ll totally read the fitness blog. Can’t wait. Even though in my current pregnant state my “fitness” involves lots of mint chocolate cookie ice cream eating. :)

  10. Emily on April 23rd, 2008 3:47 pm

    I can’t wait to read your take on the health/weight loss. Another place to read your work? Sign me up!

  11. fairydogmother on April 23rd, 2008 3:52 pm

    I wouldn’t hit my dog in order to attempt to train him to follow commands, and yet some parents get absolutely up in arms over the idea of NOT spanking. As if spanking actually teaches kids anything other than to ultimately fear their parents. It hinders teaching children problem solving skills, and instead teaches kids that if you do x, y, or z then mommy or daddy will hit you. The same mommy and daddy who probably tell you that it is not okay to hit. So smart kids learn to be sneaky.

    On a related note, I’ve seen the way some of the Parent Dish commenters speak to you and other writers over there and I am at a loss as to why PD allows the patrons of its business to speak to their employees the way that some of them do. I have seen some absolutely horrible things said over there, and if that had happened in most workplaces where people are dealing with clients/customers/patrons face-to-face or over the phone it would have resulted in intervention by a supervisor. A supervisor who more than likely would have asked that person to leave, or at the very least insisted they refrain from treating the staff in such a manner.

    Most message boards won’t allow members to post insulting or disrespectful messages to moderators, so why does PD allow the community members to speak to the writers, or even other community members like that? I’m truly at a loss. Unless of course they just figure that they can’t keep people from making up a new username or using an alternate IP address, so they simply don’t even bother.

  12. fairydogmother on April 23rd, 2008 3:55 pm

    *sigh*…um, my first sentence up above was supposed to end with “their kids”. Guess I get a little rushed when I’m irritated. Go figure. ;)

  13. sooboo on April 23rd, 2008 4:09 pm

    Man, I was feeling bad for you after reading that shitstorm. Some of those people are stupid crazy. I feel sorry for their kids, husbands, bank tellers, exorcists etc… I’ll bet weight loss and fitness won’t be as much of a snakepit. We’ll see how riled up people can get about resistance bands.

  14. shal on April 23rd, 2008 4:12 pm

    I’m so glad you’re going to write about weight loss/fitness, because I saw those pictures on flickr of you in your Ross dresses, and um, my baby is 3 months older than yours and I look NOTHING like that. NOTHING. I need help. (Sitting in front of the computer during naptime and consuming the kids’ leftover Easter candy probably isn’t the help I was looking for, but here it is. I’m happy there will be an alternative to guilt me into weight loss. Maybe.)

  15. Amy on April 23rd, 2008 4:16 pm

    I actually think some of the commenters over there–the ones who comment so frequently–are not actually parents. Just some freako sitting in his basement getting turned on by stirring up shit on a parenting site. It’s such a strange site, with not a whole lot of useful information, it seems really odd to me that anyone would spend so much time there. But I do love your posts. And Kristins. And that’s all I think. Maybe Sandys.

  16. warcrygirl on April 23rd, 2008 4:18 pm

    Cool! I can’t wait to read your weight loss gig, if you can read a gig that is. I’m in some desperate need of inspiration. And it’s posts like these that make me glad I’m not famous enough to warrant hate mail/comments. If you want some pine cones to hurl back at them let me know, my back yard is full of them.

  17. Christine on April 23rd, 2008 4:19 pm

    Oh Linda, I have such a girl crush on you it is unreal. I can’t wait for your healthy eating/exercise blog, if only for the hope it might motivate me to get off my ass and put down the chips.

    Also, holy crap the ParentDish thing is CRAZY. I have no problem with people reasonably tapping their kid on the butt for big things (kid runs into street - tap on the butt, etc). I don’t think that’s what I want to do, but that’s how I was raised and besides occasionally yelling at the boyfriend I think I’m okay. But man, to equate not smacking with laziness, or any form of tapping with straight up abuse and inability to parent is insane. And those two or three commenters (I’m going with you and Swistle here) are straight up comedy gold and they don’t even know it.

  18. Lesley on April 23rd, 2008 4:25 pm

    I’m willing to bet my next pay cheque that the people rabidly defending ass-wacking little kids on ParentDish are the same people who think the torture bill is a good idea. I mean, if a little kid whose intellect is woefully undeveloped deserves a spanking for reaching out to touch a hot stove or running away from mommy, all adults accused falsely or otherwise are fair game for heavy duty humiliation and waterboarding. By a “calm and detached” administrator. Yeah, right.

    Parent dish commenters have some serious anger management issues. No wonder their kids run into traffic.

    Maybe if the moms got out more, they’d be less tense and fisty with their young.

    I’m glad you’ve got a safe haven here. I see a couple of those asswipes comment here periodically, but they don’t stand a chance with the Sundry Army. That’d be us in the comment section.

  19. paige on April 23rd, 2008 4:27 pm

    I am an avid reader of all your blogs, but I must confess, as someone with no children, I only venture over to ParentDish because the holier-than-thou comments totally crack me up.

  20. Trina on April 23rd, 2008 4:43 pm

    I am sorry but I stopped reading your blog over at Parentdish because I couldn’t deal with the commenters. I know freedom of speech. So, I excercised my freedom of not giving my business to Parentdish. I read all of your other blogs and will read the new one also. I guess I am like the commenter above, I have a girl crush on you. Because you say all the things that I am thinking. :)

  21. victoria on April 23rd, 2008 4:58 pm

    Commenter is preferable to commentator, IMHO.

    Vis a vis the outraged comments, maybe I can ofer some insight, since I am the kind of person who leaves a lot of outraged comments? And have a long and colorful history of offending bloggers I adore?

    I think there are some people in this world who are simply prone to outrage and indignation. We’re always up in arms about something. Sometimes I think that there is an “emotional center of gravity” to everyone’s personality. if you’re lucky, your emotional center of gravity is serenity, or joy, or love. If you’re unlucky, like me, you’re stuck (for whatever reason, nature or burture, I don’t know) with a less appealing e.c.o.g., like uh, indignation.

    I see this trait in myself and am working on correcting/compensating for it, yet it still expresses itself all the time. I’m just always in a later about *something*.

    Anyway, if the other bossy, loudmouthed, finger-waving commenters on your blogs are getting on your nerves, please know that it’s just their nature. They can’t help it.

    Also, take it as a compliment. It means they’re absorbed and engaged with you, care about you, and want to be involved in your life. They just tend to express this interest in ways that are extremely unattractive.

  22. victoria on April 23rd, 2008 5:02 pm

    Sorry, I meant “nature or nurture” and “always in a lather.”

  23. Sunny on April 23rd, 2008 5:02 pm

    Can’t wait for the new blog.

    I don’t have kids, but read your PD posts and the wild comments just to see what sort bullshit they’ll come up with next. There are a couple names in particular that I alway focus in on. Hot damn, it must be one groovy ride to be their kiddo.

    For your next PD post, may I suggest a recap of your day when you Spank Dog, leave her alone in your car with a DVD player running while you pick Riley up from daycare. That ought to do the trick.

  24. Carrie on April 23rd, 2008 5:05 pm

    I can’t even believe you write there. You are way more talented and they don’t deserve you. I honestly am not happy with the changes and am disgusted by the commenters. If you can’t post about real life…your life…then why bother posting.

    I love reading you. I just wish they’d shut it already.

  25. RubiaLala on April 23rd, 2008 5:07 pm

    I hope those commenters stay away from my blog. What ever happened to: “If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.” That’s a good saying and people should live by it.

  26. Moose on April 23rd, 2008 5:07 pm

    This is one of those (many) times I wish my bank account were better funded. So I could pay you to start a new blog entitled Spank the Dog.

    I think it would be a hit.

  27. Erica on April 23rd, 2008 5:10 pm

    I thought you knew what the hell you were up against BEFORE you posted the spanking post. I read the post and thought “Oh shit. Linda’s in for it now!”

    Some of those women are the ones that give us all a bad name. I’d hate to run into any of them in a dark alley.

  28. Jennifer on April 23rd, 2008 5:19 pm

    Looking forward to your new blog! I don’t know how you keep up with all of your projects but am sure glad you do!

    Those ParentDish people AMAZE me. Some people just LIVE to piss on everything anyone does or says. I’m all about being able to voice your opinions but god, you’ve got to figure that in real life those people are just downright miserable to be around and have to be absolutely sick of themselves. Ugh. You’ve got to feel for the little kids who have to grow up with such toxic parents…

  29. Victoria on April 23rd, 2008 5:28 pm

    “getting people honked off” is my new favourite term. It makes me laugh. Which helps with the pain I have from the pinecone up my butt.

  30. Eric's Mommy on April 23rd, 2008 5:32 pm

    I know, what is up with some of those ParentDish commenters? They get ME HONKED OFF!

    Can’t wait for the new blog!

  31. Meagan on April 23rd, 2008 5:36 pm

    You know, as someone who spends FAR too much time on parentdish, you wouldn’t believe how addicting flame wars can be. Even if they piss you off you (and by you of course I mean I) just can’t help going back again and again to see what more has happened. (It probably helps that I have a thesis I’m supposed to be working on and ParentDish is one of my sure fire time wasters). With the spanking thing though, I think it wasn’t so much your post that stirred things up (though the topic is always volatile) as it was the utter disregard displayed by commenters for each other.

    Good luck with the new blog, and with the new track at ParentDish. I always love hearing your stories whether they cause an uproar or are just entertaining personal accounts (that as you pointed out occasionally also cause an uproar for some reason)… People are nuts.

  32. Stephanie on April 23rd, 2008 5:37 pm

    YAY!! As a reformed fat girl I love reading about other reforming fat girls. Also love reading about ass munching dogs. You know since I have one to beat with my belt at home.

  33. Ashlea on April 23rd, 2008 5:45 pm

    I don’t have any children (And I won’t be anytime soon, Mom.. so you can just stop hoping for grandchildren) but I love reading the train wreck that is ParentDish and just thinking “Wow. Let me stay childless a little bit longer if THIS is what I have to put up with along WITH the ‘joys’ (and the real joys) of kids.”

  34. Meagan on April 23rd, 2008 5:46 pm

    Lesley… “No wonder their kids run into traffic.” You just made me spit water onto my keyboard.

  35. Jennifer on April 23rd, 2008 5:51 pm

    Oh WORD on the pinecone placement on the PD commenters. I was thinking “my gosh this woman must have some kind of stick up her ass” but I think you’re right - pinecone is much more likely.

  36. Jennifer on April 23rd, 2008 5:54 pm

    Oh by the way, I cracked up when I saw you respond to one commenter as “Isiswhatsyername,” I am still laughing at that right now. You rock.

  37. Maureen on April 23rd, 2008 6:07 pm

    One of the reasons I love your blog here (besides the fact you crack me up) is because you have always had the most rational, sensible commenters. Awesome the way different points of view are respected.

    But when I ventured over to Parentdish, I was appalled at the comments. Some of those people are seriously out of whack.

  38. jonniker on April 23rd, 2008 6:18 pm

    Dude, that was fucking nuts. I’m sorry, but that was - is - ridiculous. And what upset me the most is the things they say about your parenting, implying that Riley is out of control and crazy and you are SO INSANE that you are ONE SMALL INCH away from beating him to death. This, from people who spend a shitload of time defending spanking their kids. It was SO WRONG. The whole thing! So wrong!

    Honestly, I’m still pretty cheesed off about it if I think about it too much. That kind of talk is so cruel, and so unnecessary.

  39. MotherGooseAmy on April 23rd, 2008 6:23 pm

    First of all…. I noticed that at the end of your spanking blog entry you asked what people’s opinion of spanking was. You didn’t ask people to weigh in on YOUR opinion of spanking. Of course there a few whackjobs out there (SKL) who can’t give their opinion without criticizing others.
    Secondly…. some people were born without the filter between the brain and the mouth, so they are unable to censure their inappropriate comments. Unfortunately the anyonimity of the internet makes it even easier to say whatever the hell you think without considering others, since bascially nobody knows you and you don’t need to look anyone in the eye.

    BTW I agree with YOU Linda. Spanking is out of the question. I say to SKL “Pick on someone your own size!”

    I think if you want an intelligent dialogue about a contraversial topic, post it at All & Sundry, because we have the brain-mouth fliter and treat eachother with support and respect.

  40. Anne L. on April 23rd, 2008 6:39 pm

    Whoa, that ParentDish thing was… whoa. As a new mom, I kinda wanted to join the fray as I have had beliefs on this subject since childhood, but I’m sooo glad I didn’t. Scary commenters! Am looking forward to the health and weightloss site, as that aspect of postpartum-ness is proving to be very frustrating right now.
    Also, the Dylan videos are awesome!

  41. the goddess anna on April 23rd, 2008 6:42 pm

    Lesley is right, at least with me. I have spanked my kids (and it’s something that I’ve struggled with, but that’s MY issue) and I support torturing terrorists. Of course, they’re barely tangently related… but there you go. You don’t have to bet your paycheck after all.

    Linda, I still love you and your writing. I think you’re a great mother, at least from the info that you present about yourself and your family both here and on PD. I don’t agree with you on everything (it would be creepy if I did), and I wouldn’t expect you to agree with everything I or any other commenter believe in. As I posted on PD, I separate the act from the actor. I think it’s good that you don’t want to spank Riley, and I don’t think his behavior is really that egregious anyway. He’s a typical toddler. I guess I just wish other commenters would have the same amount of respect for my parenting decisions (and for those other people who may think similarly) as I do for theirs.

    Of course, I’m a hopeless optimist when it comes to these things. And I’m addicted to flame wars (guilty pleasure and all). I don’t always feel particularly welcome commenting at PD (because I’m typically more conservative than the majority there), and I’m not sure if I’ll still be welcome here after this comment (after all, I’m a spanker).

    Oh, and totally cool about the fitness thing. I need to get my seriously flabby ass in gear. Good on you.

  42. Cicely on April 23rd, 2008 6:45 pm

    Those Parent Dish bitches are nuttier than squirrel turds, I tell ya what. I had to quit reading your posts over there before my head exploded from the crazy. I’m looking forward to the diet and exercise gig.

  43. Megan on April 23rd, 2008 6:57 pm

    I’m pretty sure I’m not alone in hoping Isisaquaria’s husband ties her shoelaces together someday. Near a cliff.

  44. sweetney on April 23rd, 2008 7:04 pm

    looking forward to the new weight loss endeavor! not that weight loss is (ahem-cough) an issue for me or anything (clears throat).

  45. Betsy on April 23rd, 2008 7:08 pm

    Linda, you’re a rock star! I have NO IDEA how you care for a family and do all this writing…all while you’re ON LEAVE from your job. Whew. Wherever you’re writing, I’ll be reading!

  46. Lesley on April 23rd, 2008 7:23 pm

    I wonder if there’s a spank-the-flab away exercise machine for the ladies that support spanking kids. Linda, you must look into this.

    Btw, what does SKL stand for. Spanky Krazy Lady? Or maybe it’s Skanky.

    Sorry, couldn’t resist.

  47. Lesley on April 23rd, 2008 7:39 pm

    drat, links don’t seem to be working. I’ll try posting this find on Parent Dish.

  48. Kim on April 23rd, 2008 7:58 pm

    Clearly I’ve read too many baby books/magazines this week, but I ran across a blurb *somewhere* which I cannot find now that said…

    Mothers would be a lot better off if we could recognize the judgements of others as the manipulation that it really is.

    Don’t take it personally. There are just some people that are itchin’ to spread their doctrine as law to the masses via the interwebs. They just can’t help themselves. :)

  49. danielle on April 23rd, 2008 8:04 pm

    You are my hero! Seriously-you write so much, and care for your kiddos, and somehow still find time to join a gym and ACTUALLY ATTEND A CLASS THERE! I am jealous.

  50. Laura on April 23rd, 2008 8:04 pm

    Can’t wait for the new blog!!! I’m still hanging on to the last 15 (okay, maybe 20) lbs. and I’m 2 1/2 years post pardum - is that even considered post pardum - 2 1/2 years, come on!!!! I guess it’s time to get my ass in gear and hopefully you’ll be able to help!

    And I have to admit that I read your Parent Dish blog mostly to see what the crazies have to say - in a sick sort of way, it makes me feel more normal :) The first thought that popped into my head when I read the title of the spanking entry was “oh no, here we go!”.

    So, thanks for the entertainment and hurry up with the new blog please!!!

  51. Operation Pink Herring on April 23rd, 2008 8:07 pm

    I really admire you for being able to get through a shitstorm and keep writing for ParentDish. I adore your posts over there, but I mostly avoid the comments because the preachy, condescending, know-it-all attitudes make me want to drown myself in my cat’s litterbox. I couldn’t help but read through the comments on the spanking post, though. I haven’t felt that sorry for humankind in awhile.

    I hope you don’t let those people bother you too much. I know I wouldn’t be able to let it roll off my back, but I hope you can. They’re such idiots.

    Very much looking forward to your weight loss/exercise blog!

  52. sundry on April 23rd, 2008 8:09 pm
    goddess anna: so you know, I posted that entry just to share my own opinion, and ask what other people’s views on the matter was. That’s all. I wasn’t saying that pro-spanking parents are worthy of criticism, despite how some of the commenters chose to interpret that. So as long as you’re not jumping down my ass and calling me lazy and my kid out of control, you are more than welcome here. : )
  53. Daily Tragedies on April 23rd, 2008 8:30 pm

    You bitch! I can’t fit in a pair of Joe’s jeans NOW, pre-children. Because apparently Joe doesn’t think I should have an ass. Or the legs of an Olympic soccer player.

    I’ll still read anything you write, despite being green with envy, so bring on the new URL. :-)

  54. breckgirl on April 23rd, 2008 8:33 pm

    Oh my fucking GOD - that is ridiculous. How do you even stand that shit? I’ve been out of “blogging” commission for about 3 weeks now and was just checking in to see what you were up to and MAN ALIVE that Parent Dish thing you do is crazy. I mean, if you have to be all fake and write vapid useless posts that don’t invite a calm, rational exchange of opinions - what’s the point? I like your blog - THIS blog - because there is often a lot of weighing in with different opinions without all the mud-slinging and bashing that is seen at PD. I don’t usually even venture over there - who wants to read comments where people are just being downright UGLY? Who needs it? Anyway - looking forward to your weight loss exercise thing. And your little Riley video was too cute - I was shocked for some reason when I watched it to hear your VOICE, which sounded alarmingly like my own! But oh, that Dylan is too cute. Glad you’re doing well. Watch out for those PD ho’s.

  55. Moderndayhermit on April 23rd, 2008 8:44 pm

    I thought there were jerks on both sides of the issue - pro and anti.

    I’m not pro-spanking but I find a lot of anti-spanker folks to be quite sanctimonious, rude and judgmental.

    I was spanked as a child, I barely remember anything other than it happened. I do remember a lot of the things that were said to me that were MUCH MORE damaging than any spanking.

    I do find it ironic that so many here that are against spanking and being judgmental about it don’t seem to mind talking about “kicking the shit” out of someone or having someone fall to their death by having shoe-laces tied together.

  56. Lesley on April 23rd, 2008 8:57 pm

    With tongue firmly planted in cheek, moderndayhermit.

    I don’t know if you’ve read the harridans over there but some of those bitches are overdue for tarring and feathering. Linda can’t write a post without some inane pundit jumping down her throat.

    No one here is actually violent, I’m sure. I mean…we can’t even spank kids for God’s sake.

  57. Ashley B on April 23rd, 2008 9:03 pm

    AH BOO! Forget those commentors!! Being happy all the time will make it BOring! more than grocery lists ;)

    They really need to just bite the bullet and get a day job already.

  58. JodyinRoc on April 23rd, 2008 9:03 pm

    Dictionary.com says “Commenter” is a word. I guess TextEdit is just dumb.

  59. Lesley on April 23rd, 2008 9:05 pm

    Btw, if you want a visual on some of those commenters, the Flame Warrior web site is a goldmine of imagery.

    I’d link to it but links don’t work in the comments. If you Google “flame warriors” it’s the first link that shows up. The artist who draws these stereotypical Internet people deserves an award.

    Check out Furious Typer and Cyber Sisters. Hilarious.

    Ok, I think I’ve blabbed enough in this thread for now.

  60. All Adither on April 23rd, 2008 9:06 pm

    I wish I was obsessed with fitness. I’m starting a food blog soon. What does that say about me?

  61. Moderndayhermit on April 23rd, 2008 9:13 pm

    Leslie - I’m not too familiar with that website, from what I’ve heard the the tiny bit I’ve seen…I should count myself lucky.

    As a side-note I’m generally non-violent but dream of my MIL being hit by a bus. *snort*

  62. Jem on April 23rd, 2008 9:19 pm

    Well, I didn’t read the post, but its illegal to spank in New Zealand. Maybe you can send them over here and we can lock em up for ya. I might go read the post now.

  63. Meagan on April 23rd, 2008 9:29 pm

    Lesley, that sight is FANTASTIC and made me slap my forehead thinking, why the heck didn’t I do that? It is a little strange though because after reading it I realize that Mel actually made a joke… suggesting that she has a sense of humor. (If you think SKL is over the top you’d LOVE some of Mel’s previous comments. Of course there are more than one Mel which gets confusing.)

  64. andi on April 23rd, 2008 10:04 pm

    I’m always amazed by how vicious comment trolls can be. Do some people seriously have nothing better to do with their time than to be an asshole on the Internet?

    I’m excited about your new project - not that I need ANY help in that area at all. :) You are going to give us a super easy way to stay thin by not exercising and eating a steady diet of cookies, right?

  65. squandra on April 23rd, 2008 10:11 pm

    I read that PD business and I’m glad you mentioned it over here, because I had to resist the urge to come over earlier and post an off-topic comment, just to say, “Hi! You do not suck!” in a SAFE PLACE, for pete’s sake. They are terrifying.

    Your commenters here can hold their shit together while discussing and sometimes disagreeing on things like GUN CONTROL. Love it. I don’t really think one should expect anything less from adults, but it does seem to be a rare find on these here internets.

  66. Rebecca M. on April 23rd, 2008 11:03 pm

    If the judgmental commenters* don’t get you, the sycophantic ones will. I think my eyes glazed over after the third or fourth “please don’t go”/”So-and-so was out of line” comment.

    It’s like they travel in packs and can only survive by continually reinforcing each others’ Special Snowflake status.

    *(heh, my Firefox doesn’t think it’s a word either. And is that really how you spell judgmental?)

  67. honeybecke on April 24th, 2008 12:01 am

    Some of those comments on PD were….painful. They totally blew. I really feel like the heavy hitters over there get off on the attention they bring to themselves. They must be so bored with their days. And sad. Def not happy people.
    I was actually surprised that you brought the subject up over there because man, some of those readers are not capable carrying on an intelligent discussion with that type of matter-at-hand (no pun intended.)It’s not like I think you should censor what you discuss over there, but god! Some of them just can’t handle sitting at the adult table, if ya know what I mean.

    I haven’t spanked my 2.5 year old yet and one thing that the comments did make me do was to search within and ask myself why didn’t I spank? I’m not against it for anyone else, what they do is what they do. For me, the only thing I could come up with is that I don’t think I could handle seeing his face look at me with surprise and hurt. It would kill me.

    We discipline in other ways and so far it works (most of the time!)

    Anyhow, with all that being said, I’m so glad that you have this blog to write whatever the fuck you want and that you have great readers and the comments do not make my head explode.

  68. Lesley on April 24th, 2008 12:21 am

    Glad you like them Meagan. Having run into variations of just about all of these Flame Warriors in IRC, I’m hooked.

    Two more that fit: Issues (although she’s probably a leftwing version of Skankytrollypants) and Coffee Klatch.

    Eventually, if Skanky keeps it up she’ll evolve into Toxic Granny. Heaven help the Intertubes when that happens.

  69. bleeding espresso on April 24th, 2008 2:35 am

    I think you’re on to something with the pine cone theory; perhaps someone would sponsor a study and you could blog about the results? So long as there’s no spanking involved in the study. Ouch.

  70. the goddess anna on April 24th, 2008 4:37 am

    Linda - thank you. : )

  71. Adrien on April 24th, 2008 5:43 am

    I have no kids nor a pinecone issue, but I do share your health/exercise obsession, so I’m very much looking forward to that!

  72. JennyM on April 24th, 2008 6:08 am

    As someone else pointed out — jerks are jerks, on either side of the issue. I read the post, too, and thought, “Oh, hell! Open the floodgates!” It’s so tempting to jump into the fray, especially that one, as it seemed to get so very personal — with “discussions” like that, sometimes it’s hard to step back from the computer screen and look outside the window and remember there’s a whole world out there, a whole world full of people who *don’t* lurk on message boards waiting to post some sanctimonious, judgmental, aggressively insulting screed. I’m not even a parent and my feelings on the topic are more or less moot, but some of the approaches to the concept of “discussion” over there on that topic made my fingers itch to start swinging myself! At both sides! I’m itching to start swinging NOW! ARRRGGGHHH!

    Whew!

    Anyway — I am SUPER excited about the health and exercise blog. I was just telling a work friend about how much you rock with getting back into and sticking with exercise, and how you are the motivation I use to keep myself going. If YOU can stick with it with a toddler and a newborn, what the hell am I whining about?! Rock on!

  73. birdgal on April 24th, 2008 6:08 am

    The problem with the ‘crazy’ PD commenters is that they see things in black and white (kind’ve like our dickwad ‘commander in chief’). If you don’t spank, you are lazy and your kids are out of control. If you DO spank (swat, tap, whatever) you are a horrible child abuser and your kids will fear you for the rest of their natural lives. I mean, COME ON. These people have never heard of the term ‘happy medium’ or the phrase ’shades of gray’ have they?

  74. jennifer on April 24th, 2008 6:52 am

    I looooove your blogs, your quippy honest writing is so engaging and your sense of humor is awesome (dude!). I read everything here and on ParentDish but when I saw the spanking post I read what you had to say and then skipped the comments, I was not in the mood to hear from the pinecone impaled. Hitting another person is wrong…ESPECIALLY when one weighs a fraction of your own weight! ANYWAY, what I was going to say is that I frequent graphic design and foodie blogs too and laugh sometimes because some of that same pincone crew must also have the same kind of passion for logos, mac. vs. pc, and the correct way to brew coffee because believe it or not it seems to raise the same sort of responses!!

  75. Lawyerish on April 24th, 2008 6:54 am

    The whole spanking shitstorm was unreal. I don’t click over to PD much, ever since the Dog Debacle, which truly blew my mind (I mean, spanking is almost inherently controversial, though a discussion about it shouldn’t get that nasty under any circumstances; but…people telling you it would be better for you to have Dog put to sleep than to give your children more attention than you give her? Yyyyyeahhhhh…).

    On the other hand, I find it to be a truly riveting sociological experiment — I am so curious to know the demographics of the PD commenters versus those here, who have been able to hold forth in a respectful and engaging manner on everything from abortion to addiction to gun control. I just wonder if there is a difference, or if it has something to do with the nature of each of the sites, or what?

  76. Frema on April 24th, 2008 7:34 am

    I stayed up until one in the morning reading those Parent Dish comments, and I was so sad, because it made me realize that this judging-other-parents stuff, it never goes away, does it? I thought that once my kids are old enough and the breast-versus-bottle, work-versus-stay-home, comfort-versus-cry-it-out arguments were a thing of the past, there would be nothing else to fight over. But apparently I am very, very naive. No matter you do these days, someone’s going to label you an idiot parent who has no right to have children. Good to know.

  77. Amy M. on April 24th, 2008 7:58 am

    I was also thinking of leaving a comment over there, but some of those people are scary. I don’t think my fragile ego could handle that! :)

    Looking forward to your fitness blog. As someone who’s going to deliver in a few weeks & gained a wee bit more than last time, I’m going to need it! How about ways to stretch the space-time continuum during naps so I can exercise, do laundry, wash the dishes & clean the bathrooms?

  78. Kristen on April 24th, 2008 8:10 am

    I don’t know how you do it Linda. Those PD commenters are scary. It stressed me out just to read all the nastiness.
    Can’t wait for the fitness/health project. You’ve been my insipration so far (Weight Watchers and Turbo Jam), I can’t wait to see what else you have to say!

  79. Andrea on April 24th, 2008 8:11 am

    When I saw that you brought up the spanking topic at PD, I was cringing already, and you only had 10 comments at the time. I didn’t chime in because I’ve done so on previous posts by other bloggers on the subject and it always turned into a melĂ©e. You’re a brave one.

    I personally would love to read about your weightloss/dieting/exercising endeavors because I had my daughter a month before you did and while I’m working with a lot more pre-baby weight to lose than you are, I’m always interested in learning more techniques, work outs, and eating suggestions.

    Plus, I could use a community to keep me on track for my current plan that I started last year until that second pink line showed up and I suspended it until after the baby was born. Baby = born and my butt = huge, as well as my belly, my arms, my chin(s)… You get my point. I’ll be keeping tuned in for that.

  80. Amber on April 24th, 2008 8:11 am

    I admit, I got caught up in the name calling of that comments section, but holy cow. I just started typing what made me mad, but then realized I’d get mad again and did NOT want to. I just hope that I never end up as the batshit insane cuckoopants mom who MUST convert EVERYONE to her way of thinking. Ahem.

    I love you Linda - you make me laugh and I love that the commenters here are cool and respectful and HAVE SENSES OF HUMOR.

  81. Magpie on April 24th, 2008 8:13 am

    WTF? Last I heard, spanking was horrific child abuse that would cause your children to spend their entire adult lives in therapy and also grow up to be hateful, soulless warmongers who’d want to destroy the planet. I just can’t keep up here.

  82. Andrea on April 24th, 2008 8:17 am

    I mean, I had my daughter a month before you had Dylan, not that I had my daughter a month before you had my daughter.

    That’d be awkward. And a miracle, considering the distance between Seattle and St. Louis.

  83. Ally on April 24th, 2008 8:56 am

    Linda, please tell us WHEN do you have time to go to the gym? I have a 1 year old, and (i’m afraid to admit) a live-in nanny, but i still can’t make myself do this. I wake up around 7am, come home from work at 6-6:30pm, bathe/feed, put baby to sleep by 8pm, and after cleaning up and having dinner w/ my husband, can’t make myself work out in the 1 measely hour of free time that I have. But if you’re able to do it with 2 (1 of them being newborn) - it must be possible!!

  84. Wendy Murphy on April 24th, 2008 9:13 am

    Being 20 months post baby #2, I would love info on the tianium bra. Especially since I recently stopped nursing and they seem to have deflated - completely.

    If you can’t find the titanium bra, try throwing them over your shoulders or tying behind your neck. Works for me! tee-hee (I don’t see how anyone could survive motherhood without a sense of humor.)

  85. Whitney on April 24th, 2008 9:31 am

    I don’t think it should matter what people comment about. It’s YOUR blog, your choice, and your freedom of speech.

    I don’t think you’re commenting on their personal choices. I would just tell them to F off! ;)

  86. Becky on April 24th, 2008 10:08 am

    Can’t wait for the new blog…it will totally replace my ParentDish reading…I tried to read multiple posters over there…but just couldn’t do it..

    Wait you go to classes at a gym…MAN DO I HAVE IT ALL WRONG….I just PAY the gym..I don’t actually go…

  87. Becky on April 24th, 2008 10:10 am

    oh and “Honked off” is now one of my favorite phrases…along with sanctimonious dick towel….

  88. Tessie on April 24th, 2008 11:27 am

    A health kick blog by Sundry? Um, *HAPPY DANCE*! This is the best day of my LIFE!

  89. Maggie on April 24th, 2008 11:30 am

    I really do love everything you write, whether I agree with your opinions or not. I’ve been a faithful reader of all your “mommy” blogs, even though I’m not a mommy, and I look forward to your new venture. Just want to say thanks, I guess, for being awesome. =)

  90. monkey on April 24th, 2008 2:14 pm

    This news is sort of disappointing to me as you’re the most interesting writer over there since J.D. Griffoen stopped posting.

    I had no idea SKL and isisaquaria were real commenters. I thought they were cutting edge avant-garde performance artists set on challenging the ontological limits of webspaces and then presenting the comment threads at an art gallery in NYC while dressing in bodystockings. I’m actually shocked to find out they’re real people and not a senior art thesis at Yale.

    Anyway, I’m sorry they’ve upset you. I don’t have kids, hell, I’m not even married…but you make me laugh every day. Best of luck with the new happy posts at Parentdish.

  91. Erin on April 24th, 2008 3:07 pm

    Ooh! Yay! A weight loss gig?! Can’t wait! I’ve lost a bit of weight recently but still can’t figure out how to find my abs. I think having a baby destroyed them and they may never be seen again…woe is me! I’m looking forward to using you as my inspiration to maintain!

  92. Meagan on April 24th, 2008 6:40 pm

    “I thought they were cutting edge avant-garde performance artists set on challenging the ontological limits of webspaces and then presenting the comment threads at an art gallery in NYC while dressing in bodystockings.”

    OH MY GOD. I think you may have nailed that one Monkey… best analysis ever.

  93. Lori O on April 25th, 2008 12:31 pm

    oooh! Looking forward to the fitness-related blog. That is a hobby/ISSUE of mine too, and I look forward to reading your brutally honest take on that stuff!

  94. SKL on April 27th, 2008 11:24 pm

    To set the record straight for anyone here who is not too much of an idiot to read properly:

    YOU said in your post YOU don’t believe anyone should hit their kids. YOU also said YOU were violent toward your child and YOU thought you might lose it if you allowed yourself to get physical with him. Then you invited comments. After I reacted to YOUR comment that you don’t believe I should hit my kid, YOU attacked ME by noting that you felt my kids were awfully young to be spanked. Then a few people said spankers spank because they are lazy. After all that, I said spanking parents aren’t necessarily lazy, and that if anyone is lazy, it is parents who don’t “take the next step” (I did NOT say spank) so their kids don’t kick people. You stupidly interpreted this to mean that I think you are lazy for not spanking. Though twice I said that was not my meaning, you kept saying it anyway. Apparently you felt it would get you some sympathy which you did not deserve. Please note that there is no time I ever said that I felt you or anyone else should hit his/her kid. (Re-read the comments if you want to double-check.) I don’t even believe spanking is right for every parent or every kid. I just felt you were wrong to declare that others should not hit their kids, unless your purpose was to start a fight. And you were way, way wrong to go back and do research on my kids so you could more personally slam me on PD.

    You are not nice to others on PD. You are worse than most of the commenters, including me. You can dish it out but you can’t take it. You are also dishonest, as shown in your blog entry here. Don’t be fooled by the supportiveness of your fan club here. And don’t let your excessive defensiveness cloud your vision. Or, do, if you choose - why should I care? Stew in your own juices as long as you want.

    In recent months, have made a number of supportive comments to you on PD and all I have gotten from you is shit. How dare I disagree with you a couple of times. If you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

    You are about the must unprofessional blogger on PD and I’d wish they would fire you, except that the whole site is going to hell anyway so who cares.

    Don’t bother to respond; I won’t be back.

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